Women in Secularism-Survivors of industrial *schools*-Magdalen Laundries.

Maybe sometime into the future Women in Secularism might spare a thought for women who spent their whole childhoods in industrial *schools* and Magdalen Laundries. I believe their testimonies should be included in some speeches at conferences that are given by Women in Secularism.

Their voices so need to be heard and helped along. They grew up as children and young women being part of the most vulnerable section of Irish society. They also sacrificed a lot when they came out to tell their stories to the cold world. Some even lost any semblance of a normal family that they may have only found as adults and could have had good relationships. They have paid the ultimate price and should not be turned away by Women in Secularism for those reasons alone. Let a part of your day involve in your speeches a part of the horrible lives they lived as children in their respective institutions.

A lot of them have been battling very hard with religion since the aftermath of fighting the antediluvian patriarchal system the prevails in the Vatican.  And because of the stance they took, in pointing out the wrong-doings by the religious they’ve ultimately been severely ostracised. Survivors of industrial *schools* and Magdalen Laundries in general may not have the wherewithal to express themselves in the same manner as Women in Secularism, due to lack of former education. However, they still had the nerve and feistiness to stand up to the Vatican and the State.

So please Women in Secularism please do not be too hard and continue to ignore them in the blogosphere either because you might feel bored by their lack of thinking. They are a force to be reckoned with in their own right and do so much need your moral support. I know that a lot of them have been in the wings of atheism and only too afraid to show their jaded heads for fear of more rejection.

It behooves Women in Secularism to not look in the other direction and pretend that they don’t exist; or to merely pay lip service to their cause. Some kind Irish people from the music industry lent their valuable time and service to Magdalen Laundry survivors, whom they thought were worth supporting.

Women in Secularism talk about advocacy and reaching out to the marginalised. Well, we all know that the future belongs to the young. We also hear that the young are the here and now. So too are those who have suffered dreadfully in the past. Whatever is left of their broken lives?

I ask politely, not aggressively, that the Women in Secularism listen to the voices of reason of those who have been there and worn the evil little things t-shirts as children.

 

Please live up to the image that the image displays above and look clearly into the eyes of those who feel they’re on the outside. Please don’t dismiss survivors of childhood institutional abuse as cranks. Let It’s Our Day become a reality by including in your speeches the voices of said survivors of industrial *schools* and Magdalen Laundries.

H/t Photo: surly amy. The Hug by Tess Gallagher.

“Suddenly a hug comes over me and I’m giving it to you, like a variable star shooting light off to make itself comfortable, then subsiding. I finish but keep on holding you. A man walks up to us and we know he hasn’t come out of nowhere, but if he could, he would have.

He looks homeless because of how he needs. “Can I have one of those?” he asks you, and I feel you nod. I’m surprised, surprised you don’t tell him how it is – that I’m yours, only yours, etc., exclusive as a nose to its face. Love – that’s what we’re talking about, love that nabs you with “for me only” and holds on.”

Let WIS become our WISh too by reaching out and morally supporting us. Even to the point of utter confusion. Thank you. The truth should matter.

 If we wish to reach more people, we must engage in activities that affect their lives.

Secularism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Evil, militant anti-Christian secularism is simply a myth – The Irish …

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4 thoughts on “Women in Secularism-Survivors of industrial *schools*-Magdalen Laundries.

  1. Hi! I saw this on Twitter today. Is there a Women in Secularism conference going on now? Is that why you tweeted this today?

    I don’t understand some of the things you say. For instance –

    They have paid the ultimate price and should not be turned away by Women in Secularism for those reasons alone.

    Turned away?? Were survivors of industrial schools turned away from the Women in Secularism conference last May? You mean they tried to attend the conference and were turned away?? That’s terrible! Can you tell me more? I know the people who organized the conference, so I could ask them about it.

    So please Women in Secularism please do not be too hard and continue to ignore them in the blogosphere either because you might feel bored by their lack of thinking.

    I don’t understand that part at all. “Ignore them in the blogosphere”? What does that mean? Who? Who is ignoring? Who is being ignored? Ignored how? I’m lost.

    It behooves Women in Secularism to not look in the other direction and pretend that they don’t exist; or to merely pay lip service to their cause.

    I don’t understand that at all either. What do you mean? Who looked in the other direction? Who pretended someone didn’t exist?

    You do know that the Women in Secularism conference last May was in the US, right? That it was put on by an American organization? It’s not based in Ireland. Did you know that?

    I ask politely, not aggressively, that the Women in Secularism listen to the voices of reason of those who have been there and worn the evil little things t-shirts as children. Please live up to the image that the image displays above and look clearly into the eyes of those who feel they’re on the outside. Please don’t dismiss survivors of childhood institutional abuse as cranks. Let It’s Our Day become a reality by including in your speeches the voices of said survivors of industrial *schools* and Magdalen Laundries.

    Women in Secularism has been dismissing survivors of childhood institutional abuse as cranks? Really? Who, when, where, how? I was at that conference, and I heard all the talks. I don’t think anyone said anything like that.

    • Ophelia – how could I dismiss a brilliant tutor like you as a crank. I was working on the answers that you laid out.

      Here is one of them.

      “Hi! I saw this on Twitter today. Is there a Women in Secularism conference going on now? Is that why you tweeted this today?”

      Hi! Ophelia – Nope. Nope, again – that is not the reason why I retweeted same. I retweet a lot of stuff occasionally from the learning journal, as I don’t have a captive audience. I was prompted to post it after seeing a tweet by Paddy Doyle

      Paddy Doyle ‏@MrPaddyDoyle
      @MarieTherese39 Many thousands of us who were brutalised and deprived while in the care of the State. We need support so please RT Order.
      View conversation https://twitter.com/MrPaddyDoyle/status/266234878721417216

      I feel that our voices need to be heard much more. I feel that we are not being acknowledged enough by those interested in helping those who’ve had difficult experiences with religion. The atheist community does a lot of talking about religion, and survivors such as Paddy, etc have a lot to say about religion and its affects. We breathed it every day of our lives. That’s why I retweeted it today.

      • They have paid the ultimate price and should not be turned away by Women in Secularism for those reasons alone.

        “Turned away?? Were survivors of industrial schools turned away from the Women in Secularism conference last May?”

        Continuation…2
        Turn away in this sense, doesn’t mean literally, it specifically means, not looking at survivors, but instead, looking in the wrong direction, so as to pretend that they’re not on the radar of issues pertaining to women in secularism. Ie., religion, child sexual abuse and the whole gamut of stuff that speakers would talk about at the conference. I should add that the U.S.A. has a very large amount of survivors of industrial schools, who fled there after leaving their respective hell-holes.

        “You mean they tried to attend the conference and were turned away?? That’s terrible!”

        Nope – definitely not turned away. I should hope not, anyway. Something serious like that wouldn’t ever be allowed to happen to traumatised people who were in industrial schools in Ireland, EVER. They’ve have to answer to activists of the ilk of Christine Buckley – who fought for nigh on 25 years for the rights of women and the abused in industrial schools. One would sincerely hope that expert people would be on hand to handle delicate situations empathetically. Besides, who would want to cause a fracas at a conference that was in existence to aid the betterment of women and men. Definitely not any survivors of industrial schools that I know of, and if there were any they’d surely have to be in emotional dire straits.

        Can you tell me more? I know the people who organized the conference, so I could ask them about it.

        No, there is no need to ask the organisers. An aside: I know of one organiser who commented at the old B&W in the latter years. So presumably that organiser is familiar with industrial schools – which indeed were also in America in days of yore? That being the case, if said had organiser read through the plethora of amazing articles there.

        http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2006/the-goldenbridge-secret-rosary-bead-factory

        See also:

        The Ryan/Laffoy Report

        Residential Institutions Redress Board

        Goldenbridge Industrial School, Inchicore, Dublin 8, Ireland by Goldenbridgeinmate39

        Goldenbridge – Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse

        Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse | Volume IV – Chapter 3

        Goldenbridge Industrial ‘School’ Inchicore, …

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